Amanda Seyfried gets right to the point when Elizabeth Holmes’ partner calls himself a fan of Charlie Kirk.
“I think he’s a f***ing p****,” the actress says in “You Can See Everything,” the new documentary from Nathan Fielder and Lance Oppenheim about the convicted Theranos founder. “I don’t like the fact that he’s performative when he was with those people.”
The tense dinner between Billy Evans, Holmes’ partner and father of her two children, is among the most debated scenes in a film that opened in theaters on Oct. 16 and quickly became a box-office success.
It also pulls Seyfried, who won an Emmy for her role as Holmes in the Hulu series The Dropout, into renewed controversy over her comments about Kirk, who was assassinated in September 2025.
A dinner that turns political
The argument starts with Holmes’ verified X account. With Holmes in jail, Evans tells Fielder and Seyfried that he manages the account under the power of attorney and often posts controversial content without her consent. Seyfried seems shocked.
The debate begins with a warning: “Don’t do anything crazy.”
“I mean, there’s just a bunch of like nasty things in here that I really shouldn’t say,” Evans says. “The problem is, if I had to, like, clear everything by her … I think for too long she just let things slide, and I don’t f***ing take it.”
“I know, but that’s not her,” Seyfried replies. “That’s you. … I don’t think it’s good. I don’t think it’s helpful.”
Evans insists that Holmes approves of everything he says. “Some of it, she’s cool with everything that I said,” he says. According to the film, Holmes writes 80% of posts while adding, “I can literally do anything,” Vanity Fair reported.
But then he turns on Seyfried. “Amanda, with all due respect, your advice is one of the last ones I would take on the subject,” Evans says. “Your experience in social media hasn’t exactly been successful over the last six months.”
He adds that her posts have alienated “50% of the country.”
“Amanda was getting dragged on social media because she said something s***** about Charlie Kirk,” Evans explains.
“I just said he was hateful,” Seyfried responds.
“She got f***ing dragged,” Evans says.
When the discussion moves on to whether he is a Kirk fan, Evans replies, “I am.” That is when Seyfried calls Kirk a “f***ing p****.” Evans fires back, “I hope his voice carries far.”
When asked to say something about him, Seyfried replies, “I don’t want to hear it.” Seyfried presses on anyway. “I don’t like the fact that he was performative when he was with those people,” she says.
Evans then criticizes her acting. “You’re a f***ing actress,” he tells her, and the argument turns into a verbal fight, including “a**hole.” He accuses her of playing his wife “with no research,” adding, “Talk about performance.” He believes that the character “wasn’t her,” only “based on her.”
“I think the writers and the producers of the show are deplorable people,” Evans says. “They just made a bunch of s*** up.”
“I hear what you’re saying,” Seyfried responds.
“I’m just giving you a little bit more context,” Evans says. “I’m gonna ruin their lives.”
Asked whose lives, he replies, “F***ing everyone. I’ve got vengeance in my heart.”
“You can still be angry, but you can cause more of an impact,” Evans is told.
Evans, a devoted follower of Charlie Kirk, takes Holmes at face value when she says she has never lied in her life. In the film, Seyfried also calls him “bats*** crazy,” the Los Angeles Times reported. Since the film’s release, many social media users have criticized Evans’ behavior at the dinner.
The comment that started it all
Kirk, 31, a founder of Turning Point USA, was assassinated on Sept. 10, 2025, while giving a speech at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah. Tyler Robinson was charged with the killing. Kirk leaves behind his wife, Erika Kirk, and two children.
Days after the assassination, an Instagram reel circulating on social media included some of Kirk’s past comments on race, immigration, and the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. Seyfried commented on the post on her verified account, writing, “He was hateful.”
She also shared an Instagram Story that read, “You can’t invite violence to the dinner table and be shocked when it starts eating.”
Her comments sparked a controversy, especially among conservative pundits and Kirk’s fans. Many accused the actress of being insensitive, and some interpreted her repost as supporting the killing of Kirk.
On Sept. 17, 2025, Seyfried posted an explanation, emphasizing that criticizing Kirk’s rhetoric did not mean supporting the violence that killed him. “We’re forgetting the nuance of humanity,” she wrote.
“I can get angry about misogyny and racist rhetoric and ALSO very much agree that Charlie Kirk’s murder was absolutely disturbing and deplorable in every way imaginable. No one should have to experience this level of violence,” she added.
No apology
Seyfried has held her ground. In a Who What Wear interview published in December 2025, she said she was “not f***ing apologizing” for the comment, explaining that it was based on “actual reality and actual footage and actual quotes.”
“What I said was pretty d*** factual, and I’m free to have an opinion,” she told the outlet.
Turned away by a spokesperson.
Andrew Kolvet, a spokesperson for Turning Point USA, told Fox News Digital at the time that Seyfried was free to say what she wanted but “deserved whatever backlash she gets.”
In a British GQ profile published earlier this year, Seyfried said the intensity of online reactions even forced her to hire a bodyguard for some time. “I’m allowed to f***ing voice my feelings,” she told the magazine.
She has also talked about the stress her family experiences because of the controversy, saying that she worries about raising children in an environment where voicing an opinion could lead to such hostility. She wants her children to share their views without fear, as long as those views are not harmful.
A surprise hit
Fielder and Oppenheim spent about three years making the film, which covers 34 days before Holmes, 42, reported to prison. She is serving more than 11 years in jail for defrauding Theranos investors with the blood-testing technology that didn’t work. She reported to a federal prison camp in Bryan, Texas, on May 30, 2023.
The nearly three-hour documentary premiered without promotion at the Telluride Film Festival on Sept. 6 and later screened at the New York Film Festival. A24 released the film in theaters on Oct. 16.
Seyfried, 40, appears in the film as herself. She reenacts Holmes’ words, including a prison phone call to Fielder, and briefly talks to Holmes on the phone. Although Seyfried sympathizes with Holmes, she does not hesitate to question Holmes’ decisions and state of mind.
The film debuted with $15 million from 855 screens, the biggest opening for a documentary since 2013. It reached No. The film debuted this weekend with $10.6 million from 2,655 screens, according to studio estimates released Sunday, taking its domestic total to $63.9 million on a reported $7 million budget.
Reactions to the Kirk scene have been strongly polarized. Conservative podcaster Megyn Kelly called the scene “freaking ridiculous” on her show, arguing that Evans looks like the film’s villain while Seyfried is portrayed as the hero.
Blake Neff, a producer of The Charlie Kirk Show, told NewsNation that the film’s title sounds “extremely ironic.” NewsNation noted that Neff believes Evans’ defense of Kirk is a strategic move to obtain a pardon for Holmes, although he admits a pardon is difficult to get.
